12月12日の日記
2007年12月12日There are 3 messages totalling 112 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Fire/Ice and Counterbalance (2)
2. Story circle+ Planeswalker. Cryptic Command + Greater Gargadon
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Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 16:58:02 -0500
From: Simon Cooper
Subject: Re: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
> Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 10:17:42 -0300
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luis_Fernando_Machado_Fern=E1ndez?=
>
> Subject: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
>
> Hi
> Last saturday i was playing at a tournament and at one point， i played
> Mogg
> War Marshall， and my opponent revealed a Fire/Ice with his counterbalance，
> =
> I
> don’t know if the cmc of Fire/Ice is four or you choose one of the 2 cards
> (Fire or Ice) so it’s cmc would be 2. thanks for the help.
>
Gavin，
do you think you could give a quick summary of when the CMC of split cards
gets counted in various ways?
I think I’m fine with getting hit for 8 revealing Spite/Malice to his
Planeswalker’s Fury and being able to play Ends off Sunforger or Isochron
Scepter， but I’m sure there’s a few other scenarios where I’ll go all
confused - e.g. if a split card had Transmute or something...
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Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 13:59:50 -0800
From: Lee Sharpe
Subject: Re: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
On Dec 10， 2007 1:58 PM， Simon Cooper wrote:
>
> Gavin，
> do you think you could give a quick summary of when the CMC of split cards
> gets counted in various ways?
>
> I think I’m fine with getting hit for 8 revealing Spite/Malice to his
> Planeswalker’s Fury and being able to play Ends off Sunforger or Isochron
> Scepter， but I’m sure there’s a few other scenarios where I’ll go all
> confused - e.g. if a split card had Transmute or something...
Aaron Forsythe has already done it for us!
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/af116
--
Lee Sharpe， lee.sharpe@gmail.com
DCI Level 3 Judge
WotC NetRep for EFnet’s #mtgjudge
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Date: Tue， 11 Dec 2007 01:28:10 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Miguel_Herrera_=C1lvarez?=
Subject: Story circle+ Planeswalker. Cryptic Command + Greater Gargadon
Im having some problems with the interaction of Story Circle and the Planes=
walkers， with the 419.9 of the comp. what is the affected object? by the wa=
y， theres some kind of posibility to save the planeswalker preventing the d=
amage (for example a shock)， with a story circle， or the redirection is apl=
ied first.
=20
Relevant text: =20
Story Circle:
Enchantment
As Story Circle comes into play， choose a color. W: The next time a source =
of your choice of the chosen color would deal damage to you this turn， prev=
ent that damage
=20
Shock:
Instant
Shock deals 2 damage to target creature or player.=20
=20
=20
Another question:
If i play a cryptic Command， and choose to return a pemanent to its owner h=
and and draw a card， in resp， the controller of the permanent sac. to a gre=
ater gargadon =BFthe controller of the Command draws the card? =BFoperate l=
ike a common "cantrip" or like a card with multiple tragets.
=20
Relevant Text:
=20
Cryptic Command
Instant
Choose two - Counter target spell; or return target permanent to its owner’=
s hand; or tap all creatures your opponents control; or draw a card.=20
=20
Greater Gargadon
Creature
Suspend 10-R Sacrifice an artifact， creature， or land: Remove a time counte=
r from Greater Gargadon. Play this ability only if Greater Gargadon is susp=
ended.=20
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End of MTGRULES-L Digest - 10 Dec 2007 to 11 Dec 2007 (#2007-263)
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Topics of the day:
1. Fire/Ice and Counterbalance (2)
2. Story circle+ Planeswalker. Cryptic Command + Greater Gargadon
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Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 16:58:02 -0500
From: Simon Cooper
Subject: Re: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
> Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 10:17:42 -0300
> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Luis_Fernando_Machado_Fern=E1ndez?=
>
> Subject: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
>
> Hi
> Last saturday i was playing at a tournament and at one point， i played
> Mogg
> War Marshall， and my opponent revealed a Fire/Ice with his counterbalance，
> =
> I
> don’t know if the cmc of Fire/Ice is four or you choose one of the 2 cards
> (Fire or Ice) so it’s cmc would be 2. thanks for the help.
>
Gavin，
do you think you could give a quick summary of when the CMC of split cards
gets counted in various ways?
I think I’m fine with getting hit for 8 revealing Spite/Malice to his
Planeswalker’s Fury and being able to play Ends off Sunforger or Isochron
Scepter， but I’m sure there’s a few other scenarios where I’ll go all
confused - e.g. if a split card had Transmute or something...
------------------------------
Date: Mon， 10 Dec 2007 13:59:50 -0800
From: Lee Sharpe
Subject: Re: Fire/Ice and Counterbalance
On Dec 10， 2007 1:58 PM， Simon Cooper wrote:
>
> Gavin，
> do you think you could give a quick summary of when the CMC of split cards
> gets counted in various ways?
>
> I think I’m fine with getting hit for 8 revealing Spite/Malice to his
> Planeswalker’s Fury and being able to play Ends off Sunforger or Isochron
> Scepter， but I’m sure there’s a few other scenarios where I’ll go all
> confused - e.g. if a split card had Transmute or something...
Aaron Forsythe has already done it for us!
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/af116
--
Lee Sharpe， lee.sharpe@gmail.com
DCI Level 3 Judge
WotC NetRep for EFnet’s #mtgjudge
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Date: Tue， 11 Dec 2007 01:28:10 -0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Miguel_Herrera_=C1lvarez?=
Subject: Story circle+ Planeswalker. Cryptic Command + Greater Gargadon
Im having some problems with the interaction of Story Circle and the Planes=
walkers， with the 419.9 of the comp. what is the affected object? by the wa=
y， theres some kind of posibility to save the planeswalker preventing the d=
amage (for example a shock)， with a story circle， or the redirection is apl=
ied first.
=20
Relevant text: =20
Story Circle:
Enchantment
As Story Circle comes into play， choose a color. W: The next time a source =
of your choice of the chosen color would deal damage to you this turn， prev=
ent that damage
=20
Shock:
Instant
Shock deals 2 damage to target creature or player.=20
=20
=20
Another question:
If i play a cryptic Command， and choose to return a pemanent to its owner h=
and and draw a card， in resp， the controller of the permanent sac. to a gre=
ater gargadon =BFthe controller of the Command draws the card? =BFoperate l=
ike a common "cantrip" or like a card with multiple tragets.
=20
Relevant Text:
=20
Cryptic Command
Instant
Choose two - Counter target spell; or return target permanent to its owner’=
s hand; or tap all creatures your opponents control; or draw a card.=20
=20
Greater Gargadon
Creature
Suspend 10-R Sacrifice an artifact， creature， or land: Remove a time counte=
r from Greater Gargadon. Play this ability only if Greater Gargadon is susp=
ended.=20
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End of MTGRULES-L Digest - 10 Dec 2007 to 11 Dec 2007 (#2007-263)
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